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Ah nope, it's a fully featured Microtonic drum synth engine in there. Because it runs on a low power microcontroller, it is limited to four channels (which in itself required some extreme coding wizardry from Magnus). The optimize button analyses the pattern and sounds and tries to rearrange the channels to minimize the voice stealing. While the transfer interface is visible, Microtonic will actually run in 'PO-32 preview mode', limiting itself to four channels, so you can hear and tweak the result before transferring. Bryan Ramirez wrote:What if I already own Microtonic Vst but still want to but the PO-32 initial bundle?
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Will I then have two licenses? Can I sell the extra license?The PO-32 bundle comes with a Microtonic redemption code. You can sell or give that code away to anyone. karkwai wrote:I'm in the same boat, bought the bundle as I couldn't wait but already have Microtonic. I'm aware licences can be resold, but wondering if possible maybe to exchange directly for another plugin such as Synplant or a voucher code to use in the store?I can arrange that for you. Once you have the redemption code in hand, contact me through the and I'll set you up with Synplant. Taupe, it looks to be the same as in PO-12, you can set the fill rate.Manual here (step multiplier)What looks interesting is under 'prepare sound':tweak a sound in microtonic (knob A on PO-32 tonic represents pitch, knob B represents morph) and press the TE logo on the interface to prepare for transfer.Does the hardware replicate the morphing slider in Microtonic?
So I could transfer a sound with B set to 0 and another sound with B to full to the same destination, it will allow you the morph between those two sounds? If so, that's just brilliant. In my opinion, It does give it character and fit the design concept very well. I spent a day doing segment animations, it was good fun. There is some good feedback in there, Mr.Angry slams his fist in the table when you play snare drums for example! Jokes aside, yes, I see your point. I did not really understand any of the PO displays either.
=)On the tonic you have parameter read outs on pitch and morph; and Magnus did a good job utilising the number display (with some text hints) and button LEDs as well. Because of the screen not being backlit, POs were ment to be able to run without a display (like in live situations). It's limited, yes, but then again, our plugins don't usually rely on displays.
I just ordered the PO-32 pre-launch bundle with Microtonic.I saw one YouTube interview with Magnus at NAMM 2017 where he said that currently it is not possible to send patterns and sounds from the PO-32 back into Microtonic. He said there were many challenges to overcome.That feature, if ever developed, would make it possible for me to adopt a new workflow of carrying the PO-32 with me wherever I go, create new patterns while bored (on the bus, in the line at the coffee shop, etc.) and then import the same patterns back into Microtonic and then through Microtonic to a MIDI editor. That would be a HUGE boon for my creative process. Rather than browsing news sites on a smartphone for an hour on the bus, I could be writing patterns, intending to import the best patterns into my laptop-based MIDI editor.If that PO-32-to-Microtonic transfer is impossible, well, it would be awesome to have Teenage Engineering write a simple standalone utility that can hear the modem-like sounds and convert it to a MIDI file for import into any MIDI editor.Here's hoping something like this happens soon!
Understood-no promises. Thanks for considering this request, and thanks for collaborating to make the PO-32 in the first place. (I was not interested in buying any PO models until the PO-32 came out. When I saw the demo of the Microtonic-PO-32 at NAMM 2017, I was sold immediately.)I think that people will still be very happy with an imperfect solution for getting beats made on the PO-32 back into either Microtonic or MIDI file versus no solution at all. It may be better for it to start off as a standalone utility so that you can put a big, bold disclaimer on it saying: use this at your own risk, it's in alpha, here are the limitations, and you should not expect this utility to ever be improved.This should set user expectations properly so that they aren't complaining about why it can't do this or that.Think about it this way. If you were to publish the modem-sound specification only, some clever volunteer would almost immediately write a standalone 3rd party utility to export from the PO-32. Users of this utility would be happy it existed and would not complain, knowing that the utility is better than nothing.Keeping the utility separate means that you can gauge its success and demand for feature upgrades before deciding whether to make it a part of Microtonic or perhaps branch it off (and probably re-brand it).
Just got my PO-32 today and love it.The backup-to-audio-recording feature is awesome even if one cannot yet convert the modem sounds to MIDI or Microtonic.I am writing beats/patterns much more quickly on this than on my Ableton Push, even though the Push has the same grid-based step sequencing input method. The primary difference is that the PO-32's sounds, steps, and channels are constrained; one can easily get absorbed searching through libraries via Ableton.For now I am reproducing the beats I wrote on the PO-32 in the Ableton Live MIDI editor with a mouse in drawing mode. I use the backup feature so that I can go back later, pick the best beats, and try to reproduce the sounds and parameter changes using Microtonic as a plugin into Ableton Live. For now I am reproducing the beats I wrote on the PO-32 in the Ableton Live MIDI editor with a mouse in drawing mode. I use the backup feature so that I can go back later, pick the best beats, and try to reproduce the sounds and parameter changes using Microtonic as a plugin into Ableton Live.Cool! I'm very interested in hearing how the PO-32 will fit with people's workflow.
Is it difficult to reproduce the patterns in Live? Did you find the.mtdrum files for the PO-32 factory patches in the factory sounds folder? That said, I have not started attempting to replicate any of the parameter changes controlled by the two encoder knobs on the PO-32. That may turn out to be difficult.This is what I fear too. Morph in Microtonic is global for all channels and the pitch knob changes all frequency sliders on top of the morph, which isn't really possible in Microtonic either. Add effects to this and well.
There is a reason why I haven't solved transfers from PO-32 back to Microtonic.:) No, I didn't even know the.mtdrum files existed. Thanks-I will look for those!They are in their own folder, 'PO32 Factory Patches' under 'By Category' in the factory drum patches folder. Follow up on the PO-32-Microtonic workflow.For the rotary encoders, I am basically going in and trying to recreate the sound by ear. In Microtonic, I start with the factory sound patches and then mess around trying to match what I hear coming out of the PO-32 in Microtonic. But because I don't understand exactly how the rotary encoders work under-the-hood, it is mostly guesswork.I suppose that with enough time and experimentation, I would be able to form general rules of thumb on what each bar on each rotary encoder means per sound and map out a result.For instance, let's say that every rotary encoder bar is discrete. With 9 bars (8 visible bars plus a zero bar) for each of 2 encoders, that makes for 81 combinations of encoder settings. I could then map out 81 combinations per 16 factory sounds = 1296 total sounds.
If I knew the settings in Microtonic to reproduce the sound for each of those 1296 sounds, I could save the entire set and essentially be able to reproduce any sound written on the PO-32 near-perfectly, or at least close enough.Or am I missing something? (Certainly, the FX 1-16 effects are not in my current model, but am I missing something with the encoder knobs?)(Obviously I would not go and create 1296 sounds by hand. If there are rules-of-thumb or actual formulas to follow, it could be easier to create a batch of 9 sounds together in a 'sweep' of one encoder. Right now the struggle is that apparently one encoder knob does not correspond just to one single control in Microtonic-it appears to encompass multiple controls. The LFO sound (snd 4) is turning out to be a great way to try to reverse engineer the rotary encoders.).
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